Great post from the Chateau

Worth reading in full

Bill Bennett, former Secretary of Education and Drug Czar, correctly identifies and laments the declining fortunes of men…

The data does not bode well for men. In 1970, men earned 60% of all college degrees. In 1980, the figure fell to 50%, by 2006 it was 43%. Women now surpass men in college degrees by almost three to two. Women’s earnings grew 44% in real dollars from 1970 to 2007, compared with 6% growth for men.

…but then reverts to blind, deaf and dumb traditionalist form by laying the blame for men’s ailments at the feet of… I know the suspense is killing you!… men.

If you don’t believe the numbers, just ask young women about men today. You will find them talking about prolonged adolescence and men who refuse to grow up. I’ve heard too many young women asking, “Where are the decent single men?” There is a maturity deficit among men out there, and men are falling behind. […]

Man’s response has been pathetic. Today, 18-to- 34-year-old men spend more time playing video games a day than 12-to- 17-year-old boys. While women are graduating college and finding good jobs, too many men are not going to work, not getting married and not raising families. Women are beginning to take the place of men in many ways. This has led some to ask: do we even need men? […]

Movies are filled with stories of men who refuse to grow up and refuse to take responsibility in relationships. Men, some obsessed with sex, treat women as toys to be discarded when things get complicated. Through all these different and conflicting signals, our boys must decipher what it means to be a man, and for many of them it is harder to figure out.

Oh, those precious, pedestalized princesses, incorruptible vessels of Mother Mary love, doing what’s right and suffering the slings and arrows of men’s failings in reward. What’s a haloed lady to do when her heart is open to the love of a good man and all she gets is a parade of losers in her bed? The burdens of her gilded womb she will bear in martyrdom.

The bubble boy boundaries of the conservative imagination are never more evident than in its grappling with the sociosexual differences between men and women and the workings of the dating market. An appalling lack of understanding, of even a tangential blow with the truth about female nature, suggests that traditionalists and their offspring — Promise Keepers, Iron Johns, (some) MRAs, evangelists, etc. — have an allergic reaction to plumbing the depths of the human sexual soul, a revulsion likely concocted in a cauldron of sheltered life experiences and morbid fear of their own temptations.

. . . .

Yes, men, man up. That’s the ticket. When she cuckolds you, man up. When she rejects your gentlemanly kindness for an aloof badboy, man up. When she unceremoniously files for divorce because she got bored of your beta personality after she went off the pill, man up. When she takes the house, car, dog and half to fund her live-in boyfriend’s porn habit, man up. When she writes love letters to terrorists and serial killers on death row because her honorable hubby doesn’t amuse her anymore, man up. When she boffs the first douchebag DJ who comes along but makes a courteous accountant wait three months for sex, man up. When she devours pulp romance novels and vacuous feminized trash that desensitizes her to the value of real life men she can reasonably hope to attract, man up. When she gets aroused by a backhanded compliment but remains unmoved by a sincere compliment, man up. When she cries to HR about what she thinks was an inappropriate flirtation, man up. When she “forgets” to take the Pill and puts you on the hook for the 18 year enslavement, man up. When she gets multiple degrees that price her out of the mating market, man up. When she gets legal protections and favors that aren’t given to men, man up. When her every misdeed and misbehavior and poor choice is excused, man the fuck up.

Wow. What man wouldn’t want to sign up for this program?

Men will man up when women man down. The one must follow the other. The polarity cannot be reversed.


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34 Responses to Great post from the Chateau

  1. Grover says:

    I sometimes leave that blog thinking that the Taliban might not be so bad after all.

  2. urbandumpsterdiver says:

    I have a different take on this. As a woman who was single many years (my first husband died in a car crash) and now newly married to a REAL ALPHA white man, I’m going to give my perspective as a nice woman who was single and dating many years.

    The reason why so many white women go after non-whites or who are susceptible to non-whites is that for a temporary period of time, non-white men know how to wine and dine a woman. They not have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of, but they find the money to reel a woman in, get her hooked on the great sex and then once she lets her guard down, wham! She gets slammed or beaten by the dude or cheated on.

    I never personally found non-white men attractive so in Southern California that limited my dating pool. When I tried online dating I got tons and tons of emails from non-whites, but white men, not so much.

    What I did see in So Cal was a lot of white men dating yellow or brown women. It was very lonely for me. Our biggest enemy is not the non-whites or our government, it’s our own people who are anti-white and think that race mixing and screwing up our gene pool is perfectly ok. Most Mexican woman do not look like Selma Hayek. Most black women do not look Angela Bassett and most Asian women do not look like Lucy Lui.

    Yes MANY women are brainwashed by the femi-nazis that we could have it all. Now I see why our mothers and grandmas married at 18 or younger, pumped out a bunch of kids and had their grand-kids in their 40’s.

    Here’s the thing I see with white men today. They are cowards. Sports and micro brewed beer and their stupid white collar careers are far more important than their race.

    When I met my current husband he was sick of dating loser women and I was tired of men who were using women as a sperm receptacle. He told me he liked me right away, made a gentlemanly pass and we got married 5 months later. It’s really that simple, you either want to marry a woman or you don’t.

    We are living on borrowed time, we do not have time to sit here and debate the minutiae of feminism or dating, white men need to get the hell out there and meet white women!
    White men have to “man up” and ask a woman out. So she says no. Is he going to die? Is he going to fall prey to some illness? Toughen up boys and ask white women out, we love it when you show some interest.

    • mindweapon says:


      Some women act like you are a petty criminal for asking them out, at least in New England. I hear horrible stories about the kids nowadays too. I know a mother of two sons. One of her sons was at a school dance and asked a girl to dance and she looked straight ahead and said, “No thanks, I’m good.” Then he was all hurt and he posted something on his facebook that he was mad at someone. The girl figured out he was talking about her and attacked him, and he apologized! Fortunately, this boy has an alpha male father who will probably be able to straighten him out.

      But I can tell you, women can be VERY CRUEL. One of the illusions that guys have, and I think it’s a hard-wired, hormonally based illusion is that a pretty woman is also good/nice. They mistake the outer beauty for inner beauty. The movie “Bad Teacher” is about this — Cameron Diaz is a truly ugly, nasty person inside, a sociopathic gold-digger who trades on her looks to screw everyone over. Of course the Jewish screenwriters end up making her into the “good guy” in the end and her nemesis, Mrs. Squirrel, into the “bad guy,” at the end, even though Cameron Diaz is corrupt, incompetent and larcenous and Mrs. Squirrel is a competent, diligent and caring teacher. They hint that Mrs. Squirrel had a nervous breakdown or a problem with drugs in the past, because any normal, hardworking white person is hiding the fact that he or she is actually a basketcase. Or at least that’s what the Jews want to implant into our minds. If that movie was written by an Aryan, Cameron Diaz would have been fired and would have had to go work at Walmart. If it was up to me, I’d send her to work in coal mines.

      Guys who understand women are going to be nicer to good women, and meaner to bad women, which in the long run will have a healthy effect on the general population. Bad people need to be shunned and despised, and good people need to be accepted and treated well. Understanding that beauty does not mean goodness will help guys make these important distinctions.

      • Brandon says:

        Excellent….especially your last paragraph.

      • Rita Rabbit says:

        I think Urban and Mindweapon make good points. Women need to wake up and appreciate good men and vice versa.

        I know I’m on shaky ground here but I believe in the old days men and women were interested in something other than looks when looking for a mate. I’m not saying ignore looks but certainly when choosing a potential parent for your children, there should be other criteria taken into consideration. I am speaking to both men and women here.

      • rdub says:

        Outstanding–I’m with Brandon, that last paragraph is gold.

    • Chip Farley says:

      ‘White men have to “man up” and ask a woman out. So she says no. Is he going to die? Is he going to fall prey to some illness? Toughen up boys and ask white women out, we love it when you show some interest’

      One who takes your advice is taking serious legal risks:

      1.) Could get in trouble for sexual harrassment

      2.) Could get in trouble with a false rape charge

      Also White Women do not seem to like it when one shows interest, usually they will think you are some kind of pervert.

      Contemporary ‘Sex and the City’ White Women? Count me out, I am mostly into White Nationalism out of a sense of loyalty to my White Brothers only.

      • urbandumpsterdiver says:

        Chip – please, asking a white woman out is going to get you into trouble. Seriously.

        Unless you’re grabbing her breast or trying to grab her crotch most white women love it when a man shows interest. The only women who would accuse you of a false rape charge or sexual harrassment is a very minor stat indeed or a complete weirdo, which most men should be able to suss out pretty quickly. In all my years of living I’ve never known one white woman who accused a man of rape or sexual harrassment simply because he asked her out.

        I’m NOT talking about Sex and the City women, I’m talking about real white women like me, Rita Rabbit and many others who are decent people. You NEED white women in this movement or you will fail. There is no iffs ands or butts about it.

        This is what I’m talking about. This constant victimology with men and women. Older men and women have become bitter and disillusioned. That’s really sad. We should be grateful that we have this thing called the internet where we can share ideas and meet each other. How wonderful is that?

        Our race is dying out people. You can either sit here and be keyboard commandos OR do the right thing and have a family. It’s entirely up to you. Skeeter – it’s the opposite in my family. I’m out there and upfront about my beliefs. My husband has to be PC in order to keep his job. I had to disconnect my FB page because of it.

        I see a lot of whining in WN boards. The economy sucks, there are no good women or men, there are jobs, etc. Life is what you make it. We all need to get a better attitude of gratitude or our race will perish.

      • uh says:

        WN women, as I have said for nearly a decade, don’t care what you think of women. There advice also boils down to a summary “man up”, meaning never contemplate your interests as a shit-upon white man in a society that wants you subordinate, in a word. Contemplating your relation to woman means contemplating woman, which means figuring her out in about a day, which means you’ve seen her without makeup, which means she’ll resent you. WN women share in the dialectical enfranchisement of women by our chosen minders; their power is one of a society-wide narrative and the law courts to enforce it. When a WN woman sees you inching away from woman-worship, she senses an imbalance in the new dialectic, a lowly man thinking for himself, and reacts very much according to a script repeated by every WN woman since the beginning of time — which is actually a sublimated version of how every woman reacts under social stress: equalizing responsibility among the group. WN women, being middle-aged as a rule, will treat you to long exhortations filled with qualifiers like “both”, “all”, “our”, which are code for: Thou Shalt Not Criticize Woman. And of course as biddies they have little to no experience of modern fembots; their minds are populated with all the pew-warming “good girls” they have met here & there over their many decades. Oh, you haven’t met any? It must be your fault! Cultivate an “attitude of gratitude” (loolzozoz), i.e. be even more ingratiating toward the undeserving, and they will appear magically before you, ready to …. um …. you know …. reject you for not having enough money, LOZOZOZZOZ.

        So it goes.

    • anon334 says:

      This is a BS anti-white-male rant by urbandumpsterdiver. Full of the typical retarded cliches WNs believe about race. If you’re getting more attention from mexicans and blacks and not white men it’s because you’re ugly or fat, for real. Your typical white guy is not a dork or afraid to ask women out.

  3. Attila says:

    A lot of American Caucasian men simply do not feel MOTIVATED to shower their attention on a self-centered, ambitious, independent woman, of which there seem to be many in this country.

    Most men want there to be enough of a differential so that they can have an opportunity to be chivalrous. What self-respecting man (whether alpha or beta or gamma) would WANT to get involved with such a creature?

    Chivalry is pretty much dead in the US- because women killed it, not because men didn’t want the chance to show it. I for one, REFUSE to show any deference to any American woman in the 25-60 year old range. It did take a while to deactivate the Old-World programming our parents instilled in us.

  4. urbandumpsterdiver says:

    Attila – you are creating a self fulfilling prophecy with your last statement. No one is asking you to kiss a woman’s ass, but being kind to most women works quite well.

    I’m sorry you men have had a bunch of cruel women to deal with. But when I was single I’ve had plenty of encounters with men who were VERY mean. I’m not bitter. I knew I was a good woman and I deserved a good man. Thank God my husband felt the same way.

    But you know what? You don’t live in the wound. You move on. I’ve seen this in 12 step groups. People go on and on and on about how they’ve been hurt, victimized or beaten down. Enough!

    You can either live in the past and think all women or men or bad/good, or you can move on and have an attitude of gratitude. Like attracts like.

    Mindweapon – we SHOULD shun both sexes if they’re jerks. But you cannot throw the baby out with the bath water.

    • Rita Rabbit says:

      Agree UDD. In my opinion that website promotes practices (pump and dump etc.) that are extremely harmful to both the men and women of our race.

      There ARE good men and women out there. I know, because I’ve met them! Please stop promoting that site MW!

      • Skeeter says:

        Hey, RR. I was listening to Terrible Tommy’s show the other day when he was playing call-ins, and he played YOUR call — cool!

        As for all this battle-of-the-sexes stuff, I have a wife and two very young daughters (all Aryan-American, if that’s not understood), and I have to say it’s very hard being racially aware and trying to have a successful family life in this toxic, hostile Amerikan environment. My old lady gets it when it comes to race relations, but she doesn’t want to let go of her membership in respectable, polite, mainstream society, so she’s not all the way on board with my political beliefs — too stuck in her family’s mainstream Republican ways, I guess. Well, at least she’s given me two beautiful white kids, so I can’t fault her too much. Trying to have one foot in the WN world and one in the “normal” world can drive you crazy. Things aren’t always happy at home, but I’m still going to fulfill my paternal obligations no matter what happens.

        Concerning gender relations, yes, it’s true — a lot of Western white women are damaged goods mentally thanks to feminism. Us guys aren’t all angels either, though — except me!

  5. Mary says:

    Sorry girls, I love Roissy’s site and I promote it to White men all the time. Too many lost and wimpy White males need to hear the truth, unvarnished, about women today.

    The last whiny dude I suggested the site to had just been dumped by his girlfriend….and as a testimony to his immense betaness he lectured me about how he thinks the author (roissy) just “got hurt by a woman long ago and now this is how he deals with his anger, he is just projecting”.


    God help us.

    • Rita Rabbit says:

      I’ve read Roissy’s site for a while too. I just wish there was a kinder less corrupting approach to retraining men. Our people (men AND women) have been conditioned to behave in certain ways and I like to think of them more compassionately than Jewish Roissy does. Among other things, I can sense him mocking our men.

      It’s rumored that Roissy is in a long term relationship now so while he has advocated using women and dumping them for various reasons, somewhere down the line he realized this didn’t work for him anymore….STILL no retraction of the damaging philosophy he’s been spewing for filthy lucre. So once again, the Jew uses the media to damage White people and profits from it.

      I’m going to try to let this subject go for now but please remember that the best cults mix the truth with lies….and they make a lot of money at the expense of naive, trusting (usually White) people.

    • uh says:

      You mean


    • urbandumpsterdiver says:

      Let me get this straight Mary, you as a woman, advocate Roissy’s site.

      Amazing. Another woman telling men to screw over women, as if we don’t have enough problems.

      You are playing right into the Jew hands by denigrating our women. Shame on you.

  6. Mary says:

    WOW: Roissy is a JEW?????


    • uh says:

      I believe that a society controlled by a triumvirate of Roissy, Unamused, and Mencius Moldbug would not be unworthy of our allegiance, nor as deeply judefied as the present one. Consider:

      – Women would know their place
      – Kaffirs would know their place
      – Capitalists would know their place

      These are good things.

    • Rita Rabbit says:

      Hi X girl friend, I believe her name was Lady Rayne, said so, in passing.

  7. Attila says:

    I disagree with those that say that men (or people) need to be sheltered from harsh reality.

    If what is being discussed here seems too harsh for some delicate souls, stop running away from it! It only seems harsh because you don’t want to hear/know it!

  8. urbandumpsterdiver says:

    UH – you need to learn some manners in how you talk about women. Real white men do not act that way. The men in my family don’t and my husband doesn’t. Non-whites talk about women as if they were trash. REAL WHITE men honor and respect women.

    • uh says:

      “shame on you”

      “learn some manners”

      Game, set, match.

      • Rita Rabbit says:

        So your problem is you don’t earn enough money Uh? Why don’t you earn some more?

        Men have that advantage. They can earn more money. Women mostly have their looks and that can’t be improved much. (when it comes to what men are attracted to-and Roissy talks about this all the time). There ARE ways to earn more money. Even this silly female Rabbit (me) is learning how to earn and save money in this crazy economy.

        Mindweapon isn’t it normal for a good woman contemplating having a family to want a man who earns a decent income? What is the alternative? Being a pump and dump for the likes of Uh?

        BTW, has anyone ever seen this Uh guy before or did he just show up for THIS conversation? Hmmmm….Wonder how many more Jews or Jew thinkers we’ll have showing up now.

        One more thing…I know I’ve gone on too long but Mindweapon if I was a nice young woman with racial feelings (the kind of woman you could take home to mama) and I came to a site like this….and ended up on Roissy’s website because you’re linked to it, I would run for the hills. I wouldn’t want anything to do with White Nationalism. And a lot of my young men friends need wives and this sort of thing isn’t going to help. Just saying.

  9. mindweapon says:

    OK OK break it up!


    What did “uh” say that was offensive? I didn’t see anything.

    As far as posting about Roissy and the possibility of women heading for the hills, I’ll have to take my chances. Roissy’s truth about the nature of women is very, very important. Way too many White men are beta supplicators and orbiters. I have applied Roissy’s revealed truths regarding women, and they work. Not to pick women up, but just in dealing with them in daily life.

    Roissy’s Great Truth in a nutshell — women respect men who don’t need them (or act like they don’t need them). Women respect men who project a combination of dominance and laconic indifference.

    Women despise men who take their advice or obey them. Were I to take your advice and remove all references to Roissy, you would despise me, and if you said otherwise I wouldn’t believe you.

  10. uh says:

    I met a charming young woman at VNNF years ago. She was a tender 16, all sweetness, naivete, and fire to further the race, if you dig. She told me she lived in Colorado.

    Having never bothered with telephone prefixes of that state, I made a number of calls to her mobile phone, and we chatted for hours.

    A month later I received my phone bill — some absurd figure like $1500, as in fact I’d been calling British Columbia. She had lied. And thanks to my erstwhile porn habit, I discovered a few of her photos on the amateur sites whence she’d borrowed them to pass off as herself. This was a year or so later.

    Just last Winter I got in touch with my old pal “aherne” from VNNF, now at The Apricity, concerning a stray remark he made about this girl. Turns out that around the same time she had been urging him to come to Canada to help her experiment with anal sex, and other vulgarities of that sort. He dropped her despite this awesome allurement.

    What does all this mean? Put simply: American “white nationalism” does not attract serviceable women. It never has; it cannot owing to the nature of the social facts which bring us here. This is why the majority of WN gals are older, married, or divorced women, and predictably preachy — they are, and this is no joke, speaking from the vantage point of their younger selves, abstracted from themselves as hypothetical “young women who may read this site” and be alienated. In fact, it doesn’t happen. The only marriageable young nationalistas are in Chile, Spain, and Germany, and of course they are far beneath our level of discourse. And the very small pool of available Anglophone women merely recreates the hypergamous, over-competitive disaster zone of the broader genepool, where too many men compete for too few willing and marriageable women. Not that they haven’t already been assocked, desouled and butthexed beyond their presumed value, LOL.

    Truth does not brake for women. Sorry.

  11. urbandumpsterdiver says:

    Mindweapon, I feel the same way as Rita Rabbit. Your “friend” UH used the term biddies which is a derogatory term for females. I do not want my readers gravitating towards a site that denigrates and denounces white women.

  12. Skeeter says:

    This post and the ensuing comments remind me of this popular song from about 15 years ago by the lovely Paula Cole (I think she was a one-hit wonder — too bad), lamenting the absence of “cowboys”:

    “We finally sold the chevy
    When we had another baby
    And you took the job in Tennessee
    You made friends at the farm
    And you joined them at the bar
    Almost every single day of the week
    I will wash the dishes while you go have a beer

    Where is my Marlboro man
    Where is his shiny gun
    Where is my lonely ranger
    Where have all the cowboys gone
    Where have all the cowboys gone
    Where have all the cowboys gone”

    The answer, of course, to where they’ve all gone, is that they’ve been made practically extinct by feminism, the ’60s cultural revolution and kosher liberalism in general. And now some gals miss them. Careful what you wish for, ladies.

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