Fascinating interview with physicist Edwin Taylor on the Political Cesspool; Peak Oil, Whites and Immigration


James Edwards wonders if it’s not “too good to be true,” that Peak Oil will save the White race. No, James, because there’s going to be great sacrifice as well. Energy starvation will be Hell on Earth in its own way, but the good part will be that Whites can live by our White Human Nature.

Also, we’ll most certainly make use of the incredible knowledge we acquired during the Petroleum Age, so we won’t live exactly like we did in the olden days. I think we’ll probably still do things like dentistry, practice medicine based on germ theory, and use microbiology and chemistry to do agriculture. We’ll also understand the importance of managing water resources and not drinking our own sewage.


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18 Responses to Fascinating interview with physicist Edwin Taylor on the Political Cesspool; Peak Oil, Whites and Immigration

  1. RobRoySimmons says:

    The Mantra in part is about reclaiming political free speech for whites. When that happens all the political calculations that have been made in our lifetimes will be re done.

    Now most of the WN intellegensia loves to skip that first part and go off on nation building or the exciting stuff of what interests the intellectuals, but then they have to form it around the political considerations of the anti-whites. So we get the truths of all white achievements shoe horned into the reality that about a few thousand whites don’t care about being called “racists” and millions more fear it to the point of death.

  2. Mr. Rational says:

    Just because petroleum is getting scarce now does not mean that natural gas will at the same time.  Uranium will not be scarce in this century.  Thorium may never be scarce.  We need never run low on energy, just certain forms of it.

    • mindweapon says:

      How will you be paving the roads with natural gas or thorium? These things are not direct replacements for oil. It’s a lot easier to refine and transport petroleum products from oil than nuclear power or natural gas.

      • Mr. Rational says:

        You asked about energy, not building materials.  If you’re out of bitumen you can make similar substances by cooking biomass in certain ways and letting the results polymerize, or just use concrete.

      • mindweapon says:

        Yeah, and thant will pave all the interstate highways and back roads and driverways then? You cannot substitute oil with thorium, uranium, coal, sunlight, or anything else.

      • Mr. Rational says:

        thant will pave all the interstate highways and back roads and driverways then?

        Asphalt and road oil are less than 2% of US petroleum consumption.  If we can make a million barrels a day of ethanol from grain, we can make 300k barrels of synthetic asphalt for the things that concrete can’t do.  All it takes is energy.

        You cannot substitute oil with thorium, uranium, coal, sunlight, or anything else

        Where do you think the asphalt came from?  Biomass grew, fell to the bottom of shallow seas, got covered up by sediment and cooked by geothermal heat.  All the carbon was fixed by sunlight in the first place.  In general, whatever nature has done by accident, we can figure out how to do by design.

        This is not to say that it might not be worth mining some small amount of tar sands to make tar macadam and roof shingles even at a really crappy energy return, but if the energy’s coming from uranium at two tenths of a cent per kWh of heat, who cares?

    • 1rw says:

      If the energy is available, petroleum can be used more productively as chemical feedstock, or even substited where appropriate. Ultimately, nuclear and space solar power can provide all the energy we could want. But as Taylor laments, we, as a society respond to energy abundance in unhealthy ways-
      -by implementing anti-natal economic policies
      -uncontrolled growth of population and consumption
      -indulging in scientifically illiterate “solutions” to energy scarcity that gobble up limited supplies even faster.

      It seems that in order to handle the energy abundance without metastasizing into an uncontrolled growth followed by catastrophic crash train wreck a civilization requires responsible, technically literate leadership operating on long time horizons. In other words, the diametric opposite of US Congress.

  3. Ryu says:

    Interesting! I will listen and report back.

    • mindweapon says:

      Please do. There’s a good article about peak oil at salon.com right now about the Oil Drum blog shutting down, but not because Peak Oil is no longer a threat; the writers just got burned out. But the conclusions are this:
      As for the frac-slays-TOD theory, that is certainly expected given the way this has been portrayed by most in the media: technological advances overcoming depletion. Closer to reality is that, while there have been some advances, it is mostly that continued high prices made the application of pre-existing technology worth the financial risk of drilling expensive, rapidly depleting wells on land that one must pay royalties on in addition. We have had some recent posts indicating that well performance has been getting worse instead of better, so even at current prices, the future is uncertain. At the same time, US consumption is still down from what it was prior to 2008, and the net result is a lot of feel-good myths about imminent US energy independence.

  4. Desmond Holt says:

    Warnings about “peak oil” have been with us since the OPEC crisis in the 1970s. At some point, the experts said, the world would hit a limit on how much oil could be extracted from the ground. Production would then drop, prices would soar, chaos would ensue.

    • Mr. Rational says:

      Back in the 50’s, M. King Hubbert predicted peak oil in the lower 48 for 1970.  He was right.  Furthermore, Alaska didn’t push production to a new peak, and Alaska itself is now producing about 1/3 of its 2-million barrel a day peak.

      The Bakken struggles to hit 700k barrels a day, and the wells are played out economically in a few years.  The only thing keeping the Dakotas going is huge amounts of money, which is coming from the Fed’s printing presses.  Guess what happens when nobody will take the Fed’s funny money in exchange for steel and diesel fuel and gum arabic any more?

      • mindweapon says:

        So you do think peak oil is a problem then? Aren’t you contradicitng your own previous comments?

      • Mr. Rational says:

        No.  Oil is running out (specifically, getting more and more expensive to extract as the biggest, easiest reservoirs are emptied); other forms of energy are not.

        We’re seeing the high prices and contracting demand (at least in the West).

      • mindweapon says:

        what do you think of my idea that energy depletion will end government sponsored anti-whitism? just by default – by their not being able to pay for it and they will have bigger problems than making naive whites feel guilty and morally bankrupt?

      • Mr. Rational says:

        That’s a hard one to gauge.  On the one hand, making oil less affordable makes it harder to e.g. move troops around to put down the responses to riots.  On the other hand, it also makes commutes less affordable, making it harder to get away from the metastasizing Section 8 cancer and the TNB that comes with it.  It makes it ever-more excusable to try to pack White people back into concentrated urban areas under surveillance to catch any hint of “racism” (even community defense groups keeping Mahogany Mobs at bay).

        The tendency of high-priced petroleum to push Whites back toward cities could be counteracted in several ways, such as electric vehicles or running the existing fleet partly or wholly on natural gas (if it remains relatively cheap).  DIY NG conversion efforts are well within the capabilities and social capital of Whites, but utterly beyond all but the highest-functioning Blacks. Counteracting THAT, the forces of BRA could try to prohibit such conversions as fuel tax evasion…

        This sounds like a plotline for a dystopian novel, doesn’t it?

      • mindweapon says:

        First of all, if we are packed into concentrated urban areas under the threat of Mahogany mobs that will force us to become warriors, terrorists and assassins, or supporters of the same.

        Second, I don’t see energy depletion forcing whites into concentrated into urban areas. We’re going to be farming our backyards out here in the burbs and rural areas. We’re going to be growing and curing tobacco, growing corn for moonshine, et cetera. I know a guy who owns a beer brewing supply store and he sells moonshine stills (note to law enforcement — I do not own a still or engage in any kind of illegal activities). So this guy told me that a lot of people have purchased stills. Even though it’s illegal to distill, it’s not illegal to sell/purchase/own a still. So apparently there’s lots of guys out there distilling despite the law.

        There’s a lot of White men out there who are not part of the WN movement or even the Patriot/Survivalist movement but believe that society is going down the shitter and are prepping accordingly. I hear about them, sometimes run across them, sometimes you see in the news about the cops finding some crazy guy holed up with massive stockpiles of goodies.

        So it’s out there — a huge black market waiting to happen. I think a lot of those guys can’t wait to become bootleggers.

        Go ahead, make life hard for White people. See what happens. You think MS-13 are tough guys? Black Panthers? White people can get organized into mafias as well. Look at the Aryan Brotherhood. That is mostly quarantined among cons and ex-cons. An economic collapse and high fuel prices, and that genie could get out of the prison bottle and spread to middle class White men across the country.

      • Mr. Rational says:

        You think MS-13 are tough guys? Black Panthers?

        It’s easy to get rid of them.  You can separate almost all potential MS13’s and all potential BP’s from White people at a distance of 200 yards.

  5. Wally D. says:

    Interesting posts, Mr Rational. Always good to see good rational posts/debates.

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