$PLC attacks manosphere, draws in men’s rights commenters versus the prickly Cultural Marxists who hang out there

The First International Conference on Men’s Issues: Day 1
By Arthur Goldwag on June 28, 2014 – 1:59 pm, Posted in Anti-Woman

The $PLC is usually extremely nasty in tone, and leaves out a lot of interesting stuff. Goldwag reports many positive and interesting things about the first international conference on men’s right — very atypical of $PLC reporting.

For example, he reports on a defector from Marxism and feminism. This is an amazing story:

The Canadian Senator Anne Cools, who opened the conference, spoke at great length about how feminism has hijacked Canada’s family courts, quoting Blackstone on women’s rights, the song “Frankie and Johnnie” and even Euripides to give lie to the supposed feminist myth that women were historically oppressed. Frankie and Medea, she implied, both gave as good as they got. Erin Pizzey, the well-known novelist, ex-feminist, and founder of Chiswick Women’s Aid, one of the first women’s shelters, indicted the movement she had once helped lead as a radical Marxist plot to turn women against men, destroy families, and create a billion dollar social welfare industry.

But no matter — the men’s rights hordes are storming the comments there! The Elliott Rodger posts drew thousands of comments. The mens rights people are fanatic! The $PLC commenters are very nasty and angry and ad hominem, which of course will fuel the fanaticism of the men’s righters, in a positive feedback loop. The $PLC commenters are so nasty and persistent that even I tire of clashing with them, but the mens righters have lots of time and energy and numbers for the 100 Years Comment War.

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19 Responses to $PLC attacks manosphere, draws in men’s rights commenters versus the prickly Cultural Marxists who hang out there

  1. I notice that one “MRA” said that it was unfair of women get less pay for equal work. On principle, I tend to agree, BUT are we really naïve enough to think that any Eureka! Moment in Corporate America will result in women all over the Western world getting pay raises? I don’t believe that for a New York minute.

    More likely that Eureka! Moment will involve Corporate America realizing that they are paying men all over the Western world too much which means families all over the Western world will be facing pay cuts … all in the name of equality.

    I might add that, by necessity, working mothers have to take more time off from work to deal with daycare issues, sick children, and maternity leave. For these reasons, I see more women with spotty attendance issues than men, probably forfeiting them merit raises. So, if a man is at the same grade level as a woman, but is making more money, it might be for that reason alone.

    • Robot Sam says:

      Also hate to say it, but there are hordes of unqualified women out there making a lot of money for nothing. The walk around dumbstruck trying to be nice to everyone and trying to manage things, without feeling the need to get into the nitty gritty nuts and bolts of things. Sure there are the blue mooners, and we respect you for your expertise, but not many. If the government was not taxing us to death, there were real jobs making real products, and we have more real wealth in this country, and no affirmative action or welfare for ‘minorities’, women would not work, they would be home socializing in the neighborhood, and gossiping about their husband. As it stands they run their work environment in one of two ways; like they are organizing a baby shower or by going overboard and being a monster queen bee.

      How do I know? I work with them, and you have to go behind their managerial backs to the people with the problem to have it explained to you properly, then fix it without their help while they take the credit. I’ve had 18 years of that in multiple areas. The whole system is now set up where no one can criticize a woman in the workplace for her incompetence without getting hated by everyone in the company and turned into the villain.

    • Anon says:

      ” So, if a man is at the same grade level as a woman, but is making more money, it might be for that reason alone.” – That can explain it, I’ve seen statistics that young childless women are earning more than young men these days on average.

      Men tend to earn more in exchange for a greater risk of death and longer hours worked, and there is an important reason for this.

    • ThatOldTimeReligion says:

      It has been illegal to discriminate against women in pay since 1964 in America.The reason it appears that men are paid more than women is because the figure used to calculate these pay rates is the “raw wage”. This figure compares men’s full-time work against women’s part-time work (work which women overwhelmingly choose,of their own free will),in addition to this,men work 7 hours longer per week than women at their jobs,taking on dangerous or dirty jobs which require exposure to extreme environmental dangers or hazards, which merit higher pay because how else would a man’s wife or children or surviving relatives pay for his funeral or hospital visit when he winds up killed or seriously injured? Men make up over 90% of on the job fatalities,and funerals don’t come cheap.

      While women may not make as much in TOTAL wages as men make (because women choose to work 7 hours less per week in part-time jobs with more benefits packages), they are more than compensated in maternity leave,paid sick leave,flexible hours,medical plans,and many other (expensive) goodies which are often set-asides EXCLUSIVELY for women.

      Any number of official sources have explained all but 1.4% of the supposed “Wage Gap” as a result of the freely-made choices of women. It is a myth, it is a canard, I will go so far as to call it A HOAX. As a matter of fact,never-married women without any children who are under 30 make MORE in their part-time jobs than their male counterparts.

      Women do not DESERVE a pay-raise. However,MEN DESERVE an apology for being lied about and called “oppressors” who were “keeping women from getting their fair share” for decades. You can look up any of my claims, they are legitimate. I have no idea why women are naturally predisposed to view men as cartoon supervillians,but now that these myths have been debunked, isn’t it time you stopped impugning our honor and admit you have received FAIR treatment from us since the beginning of the modern era?

      You were not ENTITLED,at any point,to the slander,calumny, and suspicion you have heaped upon us and have,in fact,grievously wronged us. WE are now entitled to an apology from you or to sever your connection to our goods and services completely because they have been abused. The factual evidence is in,and it completely vindicates us. We have been more charitable to you than you have to us since the beginning of the modern era.

      • @ThatOldTimeReligion:

        Any number of official sources have explained all but 1.4% of the supposed “Wage Gap” as a result of the freely-made choices of women. It is a myth, it is a canard, I will go so far as to call it A HOAX. As a matter of fact, never-married women without any children who are under 30 make MORE in their part-time jobs than their male counterparts.

        A politician who is running for office never lets anything like the truth stand in his way of buying votes with public money.

        Righteous rant. This part of your post called to mind a “job search” article I recently read which encouraged young married women to take off their wedding rings when interviewing for jobs. Evidently most employers know that most people put off marriage until they are ready to have children, so if they see a woman of child-bearing age wearing a wedding ring, they know it is only a matter of time before they have another executive on the “Mommy Track.”

  2. robertpinkerton says:

    Fifty-seven years ago, in the very last baseball game I ever played, I got struck sterile by virtue of “catching” a batted line drive square in the crotch. Although it hurt like hell, in later years I became very glad of it, because of the way I saw men treated in divorce and child custody. My ex-wife gave me a clean divorce, for which I remain grateful to her even forty years later; but the way my Dad was treated in the custody matter, made me affirmatively want never to engender a child — at least not in the current legal climate — seconded by my ex’s desire to raise a “new child.” Not worth it!

  3. Attila says:

    After looking at the SPLC article and comments from their acolytes — a delousing should be warranted. A virtual cesspool of very sick people, beyond what most of us can imagine. Their hatred for anything “normal” is sobering. It goes beyond “trolling”.

  4. The development of the manosphere is good for us. They will start by focusing on feminism and discover it’s essentially cultural Marxism in a dress. They will be attacked as “sexist” – and then will be surprised when they are attacked as “racist” too. At first, they will deny it, but eventually they will realize “racist” is just a code word for “white.”

    I’ve seen hundreds of feminists trying to stifle free speech and that turns off moderates more than anything. The fact that the $PLC is groping around looking for new people to attack. They over-reached with going after mainstream Christians for supporting traditional marriage. Calling MRAs a “hate group” is going to further discredit them. They’ve already been dropped by the FBI where they had previously been considered “experts” on “hate groups.”

    • zog@zog.net says:

      They’ve already been dropped by the FBI where they had previously been considered “experts” on “hate groups.”
      Alas that was not accurate. They are still officially a component of the FBI and Justice Department’s experts, along with the ADL.
      WHEN INJUSTICE BECOMES LAW RESISTANCE BECOMES A DUTY

    • mindweapon says:

      The manosphere is definitely a red pill.

      One thing I note is that Arthur Goldwag is not doing the usual yellow journalism that we come to expect from the $PLC. Typical $PLC “reporting” is just bashing bashing bashing, not admitting any redeeming qualities, not making any good quotes or notes from an event they are reporting on. Goldwag actually gives the conference a more or less fair shake. I’m surprised the $PLC allowed that.

      • A.Ralston says:

        I believe Pual Elam, the founder of the website “A Voice for Men” and organizer of the conference, is Jewish. Correct me if you have evidence to the contrary.

  5. FN says:

    It is most amusing that the YKW are using peoples of the 3rd world to eliminate YT. Yet the fools who support the program of the YKW are inviting into their homelands those who will DESTROY the ;progressives’ dream. Goodbye homosexual marriage, in fact GOODBYE homosexuals, goodbye abortion, goodbye aid to Israel, goodbye feminism, goodbye to ALL the ROT that the YKW pushed on YT over the last generation and before. And, in the ultimate irony, GOODBYE YKW. Their victory over YT is a Pyrrhic victory.
    MW, you may find this of interest, Lew Rockwell, just substitute a J for the L, proudly posted this the other day by Jared Taylor’s good friend who recently had a prominent post on AR, Fred Reed and that is a common YKW surname btw.
    http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/06/fred-reed/have-white-people-had-it/

    It seems to me that God is about to make things undeniably clear,

    Our Christian ancestors did not need to learn virtues from Muslims. But today’s “Christian” impostors, with their heedless acquiesence to America’s scumbag pornocracy, surely do, and learn them they shall, as Steven Vincent did, the hard way, on dusty and bloody roads that lead from Basra to Boise.

  6. TabuLa Raza says:

    There is absolutely no way genetic truth would be allowed on Crockwell. One writer, Bob Wallace, suggested racial intelligence differences and was instantly banished- archived material gone.
    The site was financed until recently by coin dealer Burton Blumert.

    The webmassa is jew Eric Garris. According to Wiki [a few years ago] Eric’s mother was a card-carrying member of the Communist party.

    IQ stuff, like Nobel prizes, is subject to flim-flammery. The REAL IQ test is from nature- Whites win with real achievement. See Human Accomplishment by Murray. 97% of accomplishment is from a small area of North Europe. He looked for Oriental achievement and found almost zero.

    • mindweapon says:

      So Lew Rockwell is a false friend. No matter, there’s myriad other sites as popular as his, like Takimag, Unz.com, VDARE. Even WND has gone race realist. Even Free Republic allows race realism. So LR is a last holdout.

      • Jon says:

        “Supposedly, White men measure even lower on that holy grail of intelligence measurement, IQ tests (sarcasm button off) than many White women, so surely a female Renaissance should be kicking in any second now … ”

        That’s not true. Men’s mean score is slightly higher than women’s (slightly lower verbal and higher maths score for men) and the curve more heteroscedastic, i. e., more bright and brilliant people, more dullards and retards and fewer average or close to average people proportionally than are seen on the women’s bell curve.

    • If you buy into the standard Marxist bullshit, which is the reason why White men excelled in so many fields is because White men oppressed everybody else, then why aren’t we experiencing a Neo-Renaissance right now from White women and “people of color?” Especially since “the boot” of White Male oppression has been pried off of everybody else’s necks?

      Supposedly, White men measure even lower on that holy grail of intelligence measurement, IQ tests (sarcasm button off) than many White women, so surely a female Renaissance should be kicking in any second now … but it isn’t. All the patents are still coming from White men. Even today, with the Anti-Whites in control doing everything they can to stifle White men on every level.

      This is why I am convinced that White men have something that defies all methods of measurement; the Divine Spark, if you will. The world is only cutting off its nose to spite its own face by this corrosive Anti-White male envy. Especially if every White man just decides to “Go Gault.”

  7. TabuLa Raza says:

    Ouray, Colorado- the real-life inspiration for Galt’s Gulch:

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